Saturday, November 07, 2009

I wish I'd seen this when I was pentecostal...

... because I never knew what they hell the congregation was doing on any given Sunday... and I have no rhythm.

13 comments:

Mansizedtarget.com said...

As Jim Morrison once put it--in "The End" if I remember correctly--"Ride the Snake!"

nazareth priest said...

Gimme that ol' time religion...it's good enough for me...(REALLY old; like Gregorian chant!).

DammitWomann said...

Still LMBO.........I am NOT pentacostal but our protestant church does have some movement with their worship team. I need to send them this link. It is a crack up.

kozz said...

The charismatics Catholics here use the same form of worship..minus the weird facial expression.

It just does to show how "pentecostal-like" the movement really is.

The Digital Hairshirt said...

I lurve this!

I am soooo stealing this for my blog!

Lee Gilbert said...

16 As the ark of the LORD was entering the City of David, Michal daughter of Saul watched from a window. And when she saw King David leaping and dancing before the LORD, she despised him in her heart…
20 When David returned home to bless his household, Michal daughter of Saul came out to meet him and said, "How the king of Israel has distinguished himself today, disrobing in the sight of the slave girls of his servants as any vulgar fellow would!"
21 David said to Michal, "It was before the LORD, who chose me rather than your father or anyone from his house when he appointed me ruler over the LORD's people Israel—I will celebrate before the LORD. 22 I will become even more undignified than this, and I will be humiliated in my own eyes. But by these slave girls you spoke of, I will be held in honor."
23 And Michal daughter of Saul had no children to the day of her death

2 Sam 6

If only David had sung in Gregorian Chant- as he undoubtedly did when composing his psalms- everything would have been okay. You are right! He was so batshit crazy that you would think that the Lord also would have been displeased with his conduct rather than Michal's. But in fact....

nazareth priest said...

Okay, King David is exempt from my "ban" on "batshit crazy" in church...
can't argue with Sacred Scripture.
But for the rest of us, I still maintain, "Gregorian chant"...and by the way, in the monastic tradition there is a kind of dance, if you will, the entrance to the Divine Office and Conventual Mass of the members of the community, who gracefully bow to the Lord (or genuflect) and then bow to one another...I'm afraid that's my kind of dance before the Lord...boring, I know, but I don't know how I'd tolerate that "crazy" stuff!! (I'm from English/Irish stock).

Lee Gilbert said...

Couple of things-

First, we ought to be very circumspect about whom and what we mock. The things that offend our precious sensibilities might nevertheless be very pleasing to God. Mocking things that please God is not the way to blessing, but to chastisement- ala Michal.

Secondly, how bright is it to mock people who are already often made to feel like paraihas in their own church, namely Catholic Charismatics? This coldness and scorn are the very instruments that are most effective in driving them right out of the Church.

Thirdly, this kind of thing is completely contrary to the policy of the Church in dealing with separated brethren (protestants Pentecostals). See the Decree on Ecumenism. "It is right and salutary to recognize the riches of Christ and virtuous works in the lives of others who are bearing witness to Christ." Together with many things that give us culture shock, together with some heresy, there are in fact many riches of Christ to be found among the Pentecostals. I thank God with all my heart that I did not have the misfortune to encounter anything like this blogpost thirty years ago when I first made acquaintance with them. I was Humpty-Dumpty and they put me back together with many effective prayers, good advice and an introduction to gifts that stand me in good stead to this moment.

Fourthly, if you are wearing a collar, please bring yourself into line with the policy and diction of the Church in speaking about these people.

Fifthly, the Catholic pentecostals of thirty years ago sought spiritual direction from many priests to no avail. I myself made something like 25 requests by letter or personal visits to priests asking them for guidance. This produced one visit to our prayer group. To my mind the aberrations that took place and are taking place among Catholic pentecostals here and in SA and Africa are above everything else failures of priesthood. "The cold shoulder is a terrible instrument," said George MacDonald. It is perfectly obvious that priests feel themselves completely incompetent to give us any direction and moreover sense the risk of losing their ecclesiastical reputations by association with us. If through the Charismatic Renewal I experience some of the powers and delights of the age to come, naturally I wish to share this with my priest. But if he holds me in disdain, how likely is it that I will want to maintain communion with him? And so it is that many simple and uneducated people have been driven away from the Church

Sixthly, I've been a novice in a Cistercian monastery and know about that form of liturgical dance. At the time we sang all the ofices in Latin. It wasn't boring in the least, but glorious beyond telling. By the grace of God I was able to see that I did not have to choose between liturgical and charismatic graces, but being a Catholic could pursue and embrace ALL the truth wherever it was to be found. By now, like many others of my generation, I have outgrown the charismatic renewal and haven't been to a prayer meeting in years. Nevertheless, there are many residual effects and insights and powers that no doubt would amuse you greatly in the telling.

nazareth priest said...

Lee: Please, I am not mocking anyone, I have many Protestant family members and friends and would not want offend or seem to be mocking them.
I was simply stating that this kind of "enthusiastic" manifestation (re: Fr. Ronald Knox's classic, "Enthusiasm") needs a grounding, if you will, in the sober and contemplative tradition of the Church's prayer.
Far be it from me to condemn anyone's praise of the Lord...in this day and age, it a welcome relief to the unbelief and cynicism of so-called intellectuals. We just have to be careful to not associate emotionalism with true faith/belief. That's all.
And yes, I do wear a collar, at times (although mostly a scapular and cowel, but whatever!).

laurazim said...

I thought it was great. Absolutely like some of the services I've attended with friends--not Pentecostal, but seemingly close. I think they would get a huge kick out of this video--they know how to laugh at themselves. ;) Shouldn't we all?

Besides....one of the "related videos" was Mr. Bean in Church...and that was hiFREAKINlarious!!

DammitWomann said...

Nazareth Priest - In no way did I imagine you were mocking anyone. It was a great video! God does have a sense of humor also. Of that, I am sure.

nazareth priest said...

DammitWoman: Thanks, to be sure.
I appreciate a sense of humour.
O God, if we don't have one, we're doomed to be real sour pusses, no?:<)!
And let's have a great cuppa tea tomorrow while we're at it!!

Janny said...

Maybe I misunderstood, but wasn't this video in fact made by pentecostals to poke fun at some of their OWN foibles? That's how I interpreted it!

JB