Tuesday, October 12, 2010

mantillas, how to raise a stink...

... Terry is off raising hackles again. Hey, it gets him lots of comments and links. See, here I am driving traffic to his blog. How clever of him.

For the record, I don't wear a mantilla either and I am not particularly fond of them myself. On other women, fine. However, on me it just becomes another fire hazard around the votive candles or choking risk. The few times I've worn one I was terribly self-conscious and uncomfortable. I will ask, though, if the purpose of wearing them is to cover your head, than why not where a scarf or hat that doesn't let your hair show through?



Photo credit to Mr. Sonnen.

ps. I love you, Terry.

22 comments:

Lola said...

I think the "lacy Mantilla" was popular for the ability to be quickly scrunched up and shoved into a handbag. Doesn't take up much room and way less expensive than those Hermes scarves.

(Although if I even started thinking about wearing one of those Hermes scarves it would become such a sin of vanity for me. Oh but what fun in justifying the cost to my husband. And then maybe I can get one of those St. John suits...)

It's always fun to read these types of postings and their accompanying comments.


Pants verses skirts next please Kat!

Minkykat said...

When they start to make hats that look like decent hats again, I'll wear a hat. Until then, I do the mantilla.
I have felt moved to start wearing one. I find too that in wearing it, in covering my head before God, I also pay attention to how I am covering my body as well.

In other words, no more leggings or jeans with low cut necklines!
This may not work for or suit everyone but works for me in this moment.

Matt said...

http://thepalmhq.blogspot.com/2010/08/as-through-veil.html

nazareth priest said...

When I read Mr. Terry's blog on the mantilla, I thought, "Oh, S***!!"
Either he's bored or havin' a bad day...why, why would he invite all kinds of abuse...???
Well, since I have no real interest in this whole thing (I'm a monk...I wear a hood)...I thought I'd just sit back and watch the fire works...and they is ever so bright:-)!
One thing I've learned all these years...NEVER, EVER (if a male) get involved in feminine attire...habits, veils, mantillas...I've got enough "scratch and bite marks", thank you very much!

lovebeingcatholic said...

MinkyKat, I'm trying to picture jeans with low cut necklines. ;-)

I wore headcoverings as a protestant for a while. I never saw much point in the lace - I mostly used a triangular shaped scarf I had made myself from a huge square scarf (cut in half on the diagonal).

I have mixed personal feelings about it now, but at our NO parish, feel it would be a source of vanity/self-consciousness for me and therefore a distraction so don't use it. I did pull one out when we visited an EF mass, and didn't feel self-conscious about it at all since almost every other woman there had one on.

KBernadette said...

I think the lace obscures the hair enough to be a legit covering.

I wear them and other types of coverings for the TLM I regularly attend but if I go to a new Mass I do not, because it is not the norm so I think it would draw attention my way which would defeat some of the purpose. Which is a reason I avoid going anyway.

The Crescat said...

I know NP... he keeps the internet fabulous and interesting.

Terry Nelson said...

Thanks Hon - love you too!

nazareth priest said...

Kat: FABULOUS...you got that right!!
Love the Mr. Terry! Long may he reign!!!!

Denita said...

I love to wear mantillas. For me, it shows reverence. I would wear my hats but they are large and I worry about blocking the view of someone behind me. as for clothing, I prefer dresses and skirts. What I don't like is to see these women showing too much skin. Period.

The Ringmistress said...

I think the mantilla has the advantge, as others pointed out, of being easy to scrunch up in a purse. In my EF parish, we have lots of lace mantillas, but also a number of scarves, hats, and other headcoverings. I think that the mantilla became common as hats became more and more casual. Lace still has the connotation of being "dressy" and so could be appropriate for church, in a way that many hats didn't convey "dressed up".

I love wearing my mantilla, but its been a challenge to figure out how to make it stay on my head. a combination of pins and a crown braid has been the most successful, but infants in arms tend to undermine even that effort. I'll probably revert to berets for the winter.

Ink said...

I actually cover my head even at NO Masses--I have a very cute grey felt cloche. Not obnoxious, classy, and appropriate for it. At school Mass, however, I wear a chapel veil because 1. it fits in my purse and 2. I cannot get detention for wearing a hat.

Nan said...

Oh! Mantilla evolution is a spectator sport at my parish; many of the mantilla chicks are up close to the altar so it's obvious when someone makes a change. There's also a woman who wears the same vintage felt hat every day, no matter the season; I'm not sure how old she is but she isn't very young.

Then again, Father doesn't have preconceived notions about how people should receive Communion, or if he has, he doesn't share them. People stand or kneel and receive on the tongue or in the hand with no commentary.

elena maria vidal said...

A hat fulfills the same function as a veil or scarf. But whatever the choice it is not worth agonizing over, as too many women do....It's about showing respect for Him; it's not about us....

tubbs said...

In the days of periwigged clerics, did they say Mass while bewigged?
Tradition has men with their heads uncovered and women with their heads covered. Is the clueless chooch with the toupee required to remove that road-kill when attending an EF Mass?

just wondering.

TCN said...

The veil is a sign of respect and modesty, period. It isn't vanity, and it isn't a distraction, if it's for the Lord's sake.

Skirts, ladies, please. Ever wonder where a man's eyes wander when you wear pants? It isn't their fault--it's yours. Yes, he needs to practice custody of the eyes, but you need to practice covering that which is private and protecting that which God has entrusted to you.

Just my two--maybe three-cents.

Lydia said...

I have worn a mantilla twice, both times at EF masses. I hated it. I was self-conscious, and couldn't focus on what was actually going on for the life of me. There's just something about things in my peripheral vision that makes me feel crazy. I kept swatting at it. People thought I was having an episode. Totally not worth it when reverence can be acheived bareheaded.

CJ said...

Skirts, ladies, please. Ever wonder where a man's eyes wander when you wear pants?

Let me assure you as a man who constantly fights this battle, that my eyes wander "there" with skirts, dresses, pants, burqas, etc.

Minkykat said...

I've discovered the best way to keep the mantilla anchored is to put up the hair with a decorative clip. The clip has some decoration afixed to it and so I just anchor the lace onto that part of the clip.

Yeah, jeans with low necklines...I realized just after posting what a brain fart that was!

Augustina said...

I've worn a mantilla now for at least 10 yrs. In 1Cor ch 11, it does say that a women should have her head covered whether praying or prophesying. Not only is God in His Church but also His Holy angels, who sees what is going on. Our Lady at Fatima was known to have said that more souls go to hell due to impurity in dress and actions. The Church is the House of God, a place of prayer and great reverence should be shown to God. Women who cover their heads in the presence of the Lord will be rewarded for it.

No one should feel awkward, or embarrassed for wanting to dress in a manner most becoming not only to womanhood but to God Himself. We are suppose to imitate Our Blessed Mother as much as our mere humaness can possibly try. Also feminity needs to be brought back from whence it left, and the true meaning of the word "feminity" must be exibited from us Catholics. As so many other important things which have contributed to the loss of family, faith, love for God. Let us return to our Catholic tradtions which keeps Our Church alive and well...it is the only way.

therese rita said...

This is what a sweet little girl asked me after Mass not too long ago:
http://www.zealforyourhouseconsumesme.com/2010/10/whats-that-thing-on-your-head.html

Christie said...

Our church was founded as a mission and school (now closed) during segregation in Texas. Though one of the poorer parishes in the diocese, hats and headcoverings are a part of our church's culture (although the jeans and T-shirts are there, too). Many people dress up in clothing reserved for Sundays only. It's not just the women who dress well enough to come before the King. The boys look up to the men serving as ushers and readers in suits and ties and then try to emulate them the next week. Not only have I seen mantillas at Mass, I've seen cravats!